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Re: Politics

Post by Sardisbcwx » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:36 pm

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What a joke , Trudeau steps up the podium at the same time as Scheer which has never happened , winner always speaks last! Then he talks like he just won a majority, what a joke. No speach etiquette or humility, just arrogance. Now I'm really ticked off! But hey there's a break in the weather and maybe going golfing on Thursday :clap:
There's always golf after an election Gumps oh and hockey. :thumbup:
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Re: Politics

Post by AbbyJr » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:27 pm

Forrest Gump wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:32 pm
What a joke , Trudeau steps up the podium at the same time as Scheer which has never happened , winner always speaks last! Then he talks like he just won a majority, what a joke. No speach etiquette or humility, just arrogance. Now I'm really ticked off! But hey there's a break in the weather and maybe going golfing on Thursday :clap:
I'm thankful I missed that. I stopped watching the news after it was obvious it was going to be a Liberal minority.
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Re: Politics

Post by AbbyJr » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:29 pm

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Fair enough . At least the Bloc blocked the liberals from a majority, but I certainly hope there's no liberal/ndp coalition , otherwise the debt and deficits will spiral out of control.
I hope there is not an NDP-Liberal coalition as well but I fear there will be one. Canada is going further in debt, unfortunately. :(
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Re: Politics

Post by Typeing3 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:25 am

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I hope there is not an NDP-Liberal coalition as well but I fear there will be one. Canada is going further in debt, unfortunately. :(
There will be no coalition. Trudeau has a strong enough minority to be able to govern without one, IMO.
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Re: Politics

Post by AbbyJr » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:04 pm

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There will be no coalition. Trudeau has a strong enough minority to be able to govern without one, IMO.
Is he allowed to govern without a coalition if he does not have an official majority? I didn't think so but I could be wrong.
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Re: Politics

Post by Glacier » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:24 pm

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Is he allowed to govern without a coalition if he does not have an official majority? I didn't think so but I could be wrong.
Yes. Most votes are not votes "confidence", but budget bills are. When they draft the Spring budget, they will need to get the support of 14 other members to pass it.

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Re: Politics

Post by Glacier » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:37 pm

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Re: Politics

Post by AbbyJr » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:41 pm

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Yes. Most votes are not votes "confidence", but budget bills are. When they draft the Spring budget, they will need to get the support of 14 other members to pass it.

P.S. https://questioningthedata.wordpress.co ... n-results/
Interesting, I've never been the most politically knowledgeable person but I know enough to make an educated vote. :thumbup:
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Re: Politics

Post by Typeing3 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:28 pm

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Interesting, I've never been the most politically knowledgeable person but I know enough to make an educated vote. :thumbup:
There shouldn't be any issues with getting the budget passed.

Harper was able to govern with an even smaller minority government without a coalition between 2006 and 2008. He had a slightly bigger minority thereafter from 2008 till 2011.
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Re: Politics

Post by Sardisbcwx » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:13 pm

Glacier wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:24 pm
Yes. Most votes are not votes "confidence", but budget bills are. When they draft the Spring budget, they will need to get the support of 14 other members to pass it.

P.S. https://questioningthedata.wordpress.co ... n-results/
Correct don't they need 177 votes to pass any legislations? so then you would have the NDP say o.k. we want this and this to give you our votes on any bills the Liberals may want passed. That's how we got healtcare thanks to Tommy Douglas.
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Re: Politics

Post by Typeing3 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:26 pm

Sardisbcwx wrote:
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Correct don't they need 177 votes to pass any legislations? so then you would have the NDP say o.k. we want this and this to give you our votes on any bills the Liberals may want passed. That's how we got healtcare thanks to Tommy Douglas.
170 I believe. And some wouldn't need the approval of the NDP; for example, both the liberals and conservatives want to push through with the pipeline so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: Politics

Post by AbbyJr » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:39 pm

Typeing3 wrote:
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170 I believe. And some wouldn't need the approval of the NDP; for example, both the liberals and conservatives want to push through with the pipeline so that shouldn't be an issue.
Trudeau says he wants the Pipeline but it seems like he's not fighting hard to get it pushed through. Hmmmm :?
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Re: Politics

Post by Forrest Gump » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:06 pm

All the parties have to tread carefully especially the Bloc and ndp when it comes to passing bills , people are not in the mood for a non confidence vote that would trigger another election.
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Re: Politics

Post by Glacier » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:54 am

Especially the NDP who are flat broke. They had to mortage their Ontario headquarters to pay for the election. But don't worry, they are very good at spending everyone else's money -- as one Liberal party strategist pointed out on TV last night: "Liberal - NDP governments tend to be very expensive."

PS: Only 4 ridings in BC were won by more than 50% of the vote:
1) Prince George--Peace River--Northern Rockies by the Conservatives with 69.9% of the vote.
2) Cariboo--Prince George by the Conservatives with 52.7% of the vote.
3) Vancouver East by the NDP with 52.5% of the vote.
4) Abbotsford by the Conservatives with 51.6% of the vote.
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Re: Politics

Post by Typeing3 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:40 am

Glacier wrote:
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Especially the NDP who are flat broke. They had to mortage their Ontario headquarters to pay for the election. But don't worry, they are very good at spending everyone else's money -- as one Liberal party strategist pointed out on TV last night: "Liberal - NDP governments tend to be very expensive."

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