September 2023 Forecasts and Discussions

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Weather101 wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:26 pm Climate change isn't real tho :shock:

Interesting, When it hits home tho isn't it 🤔
Now even with city fire protection and a hydrant on your property, you don't get fire insurance unless you are within the city's 10min response time map.
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Glacier wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:46 pm So I was talking to a friend who has family in Keefers on the west side of the Fraser near Boston Bar. Well, all but 2 houses burned down, and no one has insurance (you can't get it when you live in a rural area without city fire protection).
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Radar wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 10:08 pm Now even with city fire protection and a hydrant on your property, you don't get fire insurance unless you are within the city's 10min response time map.
Rural areas are very susceptible to fire. With rare exception exceptions like Dawson City in the Yukon almost every single town in western Canada older than 100 years has burned down to the ground at least once,

My mom has been clearing brush around her place for the decade now. They are actually clearing land on Crown land, and though it is technically probably not legal Forestry unofficially encourages her to do it because it helps with fire breaks.
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Glacier wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:27 am Rural areas are very susceptible to fire. With rare exception exceptions like Dawson City in the Yukon almost every single town in western Canada older than 100 years has burned down to the ground at least once,

My mom has been clearing brush around her place for the decade now. They are actually clearing land on Crown land, and though it is technically probably not legal Forestry unofficially encourages her to do it because it helps with fire breaks.
Some clear cutting is definitely helpfull but not allowed because of tree huggers
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Hawk wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:10 am Happy Long weekend to all my weather buds. Last 2 days were really nice for Sept. Looks like next 2 are showery and much cooler. We need the rain..major ridging ended according to the models. :thumbup:

Thanks for posting T3 :clap:
Nice and troughy so far in September :clap: :clap:
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John wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:18 am Some clear cutting is definitely helpfull but not allowed because of tree huggers
Definitely, clear cutting and regrowing super dense and diseased mono forests with no fire breaks has been hugely benficial for the fire situation lately, as shown by the incredible results.

The far better answer is proper forest management, thinning trees, growing different species that are more resistant to disease, etc. Cutting down every tree in a block is a big reason for the way things are right now. Clearing some brush and fuel is not the same as clear cutting.
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You guys got frost yet?

Fun fact is that Kelowna gets frost August 3rd. At 1250m anyway. But most people live at lower eleations below 600m so don't get frost until October or even November near Okanagan Lake.
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PortKells wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:53 am Definitely, clear cutting and regrowing super dense and diseased mono forests with no fire breaks has been hugely benficial for the fire situation lately, as shown by the incredible results.

The far better answer is proper forest management, thinning trees, growing different species that are more resistant to disease, etc. Cutting down every tree in a block is a big reason for the way things are right now. Clearing some brush and fuel is not the same as clear cutting.
Let’s call it clearing some cutting :D. Totally agree with you
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PortKells wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:53 am Definitely, clear cutting and regrowing super dense and diseased mono forests with no fire breaks has been hugely benficial for the fire situation lately, as shown by the incredible results.

The far better answer is proper forest management, thinning trees, growing different species that are more resistant to disease, etc. Cutting down every tree in a block is a big reason for the way things are right now. Clearing some brush and fuel is not the same as clear cutting.
Idea:

1) Clear cut all forests in BC to stop forest fires.
2) Blast every single mountain to prevent landslides.
3) Make the average elevation of BC be 800m to appease snow lovers.
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John wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:18 am Some clear cutting is definitely helpfull but not allowed because of tree huggers
Tree huggers? Lol never heard of that before
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wetcoast91 wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:23 pm Idea:

1) Clear cut all forests in BC to stop forest fires.
2) Blast every single mountain to prevent landslides.
3) Make the average elevation of BC be 800m to appease snow lovers.
Won’t work El Niño man will all slide east anyway.
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Glacier wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:15 pm You guys got frost yet?

Fun fact is that Kelowna gets frost August 3rd. At 1250m anyway. But most people live at lower eleations below 600m so don't get frost until October or even November near Okanagan Lake.

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:lol: Perhaps by January Glacé.
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Weather101 wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:36 pm Tree huggers? Lol never heard of that before
It's meant to imply that nature lovers are just hippy children who don't understand the realities of the world. Which IMO is exactly the opposite of the truth.
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