June 2020 Forecasts and Discussions

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Glacier wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:07 pm It's really interesting how the Rockies seems to divide the humid from the dry so well. We also see this in the minimum daily temperatures (dry air gets a lot colder at night obviously). You have Fort St. John and Princeton at the same elevation, but Princeton is colder at night in July. Yes, I know, Fort St. John airport is on top of a hill, so it gets warmer nights than the surrounding locations, but still, when you're over 1000km to the north, you shouldn't be warmer at night on average.

Even when we think of the hottest places in BC like Osoyoos and Ashcroft and Lytton, the ONLY reason their nights are warmer than places in Alberta at the same latitude is that they are so much lower in elevation.

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A place in Siberia hit 38°C. :shock:
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PortKells wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:15 am A place in Siberia hit 38°C. :shock:
Verkhoyansk and Belaya Gora have been incredibly warm and consistently so, i.e. the past week or so.

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Antares wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:36 am Verkhoyansk and Belaya Gora have been incredibly warm and consistently so, i.e. the past week or so.

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It's quite normal to see such high temperatures there this time of year.

Although this recent stretch does seem a little longer than usual. They will cool down dramatically in about 8-10 days. :chilly:
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Antares wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:16 am It's quite normal to see such high temperatures there this time of year.

Although this recent stretch does seem a little longer than usual. They will cool down dramatically in about 8-10 days. :chilly:
That soon? The temps start dropping in July for the year? That's early
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Can I say this? It's very, sticky outside. It's 76 degrees but feels much warmer, or maybe it was my lunch time stroll???
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Antares wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:16 am It's quite normal to see such high temperatures there this time of year.
Absolutely not.

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The 38.0C in Verhojansk is an all-time record high for this station (previous June record: 34.0C, previous all-time record: 37.3C, in July), and an all-time record high above Arctic Circle : https://public.wmo.int/en/media/news/re ... tic-circle

See the daily anomalies... 32.9C today (not shown).

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BhamMe wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:57 pm Can I say this? It's very, sticky outside. It's 76 degrees but feels much warmer, or maybe it was my lunch time stroll???
Yes, it's been pretty muggy today. Hit 78 degrees here.
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BhamMe wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:56 pm That soon? The temps start dropping in July for the year? That's early
Not really. They are just prone to extreme temperature changes. I'm sure they will be hot again later this summer.

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Compared to the "average" temperature, yes it is warm. Temperatures 30-35C are normal to see each summer though.

What is not normal, is the number of days that they have had these temperatures. It's usually not so stable. And yes, I know about the record but that is just for Verkhoyansk.
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Antares wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:30 pm Compared to the "average" temperature, yes it is warm. Temperatures 30-35C are normal to see each summer though.
Since 2000, Verhojansk has had an average of 5.2 days > 30C per year. Before this year, highest temp. was 35.3C and 33.2C in June (still since 2000).
Finally, average high for this time of year is only 20C, so this past week was totally exceptional there. :)
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Canada Goose wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:47 pm Since 2000, Verhojansk has had an average of 5.2 days > 30C per year. Before this year, highest temp. was 35.3C and 33.2C in June (still since 2000).
Finally, average high for this time of year is only 20C, so this past week was totally exceptional there. :)
Yakutsk is in the same general area and their records are quite high. 38C back in 1942. Temps over 35C may be extreme and rare but can occur based on past climate data.
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Typeing3 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:43 pm Yakutsk is in the same general area and their records are quite high. 38C back in 1942. Temps over 35C may be extreme and rare but can occur based on past climate data.
Yakutsk is located almost 1,000 km south of Verhojansk!

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Yakutsk is way warmer than Verhokansk. I say it again: 35C in Verhojansk is exceptional (there were a 38C (!) and 6 Tx > 30C) and even in Yakutsk, 35C is not common at all. Since 2000, there is an average of 11.1 days > 30C. It can happen, of course, but as you said, it's rare!

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Yakustsk normals:

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Here are the data for Yakutsk for June 2020 (not excessive heat):

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Verkoyansk is an interesting place...kind of like Snag in the Yukon - 'Verkhoyansk fights over the title of the coldest village in the world with Oymyakon, an area to the south-east of the town. However, it holds the Guinness World Record for the greatest temperature range on Earth, from -67.8C in winter to 37.3C in summer.

Now they have set an all time max temp!
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Nimbus wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:48 pm Looks like they may have set an all time max temp!
Yes, I think you should read all the posts. :D

BTW, Ojmjakon is colder than Verhojansk.
The record of -67.8C in Verhojansk is probably unreliable. Since 1947 (actual location of the station), the record is -63.0C in January 1982.

Here are the Ojmjakon normals.

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