September 2023 Forecasts and Discussions

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PortKells wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:10 pm 500 mm of rain in 24 hr in Hong Kong.
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The 12Z Euro slams hurricane Lee right into Halifax and the Maritimes on September 17th. :shock: :o :shock:


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Re: September 2023 Forecasts and Discussions

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PortKells wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:51 am Point me to where someone said that.
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Slimshadyinsardis wrote: ↑
I just get tired of hearing the same song and dance year after year Kells we just had a couple of refreshing showering days and remember growing up for me drought, wildfires. campfire bans was unheard of.
Unfortunately, you will continue to hear it, and it will get worse each year due to the climate being destroyed.

Back then, we didn't have these issues, Hell, even when I was a kid, we didn't. Unfortunately, now this is the new normal, and we have to get used to it as hard as that may be.
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John wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:05 pm User avatarWeather101
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Slimshadyinsardis wrote: ↑
I just get tired of hearing the same song and dance year after year Kells we just had a couple of refreshing showering days and remember growing up for me drought, wildfires. campfire bans was unheard of.
Unfortunately, you will continue to hear it, and it will get worse each year due to the climate being destroyed.

Back then, we didn't have these issues, Hell, even when I was a kid, we didn't. Unfortunately, now this is the new normal, and we have to get used to it as hard as that may be.
I wasn't referring to wildfires, drought, and campfire bans. But we can all agree that it has now become a yearly thing compared to years past that's just factual.

Also, you can quote a post next time, by the way.
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Ovonucks wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:47 pm The problem is people who grew up in a different time always seems to think the world is (or should be) the same as it was back then. It's not. It never will be. We are in a different place now. The way to move forward is for the older generations to understand that instead of wanting a return back to the "good ol' days".
Soon the old generation will be no more and you will be the old generation, what will you think at that point??
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Weather101 wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:08 pm I wasn't referring to wildfires, drought, and campfire bans. But we can all agree that it has now become a yearly thing compared to years past that's just factual.

Also, you can quote a post next time, by the way.
What were you referring to? Sorry if I didn’t get your message
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AbbyJr wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:51 pm The 12Z Euro slams hurricane Lee right into Halifax and the Maritimes on September 17th. :shock: :o :shock:


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5:00 PM:


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Another catastrophe in the making. Still lots of variation in where that could go, but that would be a very bad scenario.
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PortKells wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:23 pm Another catastrophe in the making. Still lots of variation in where that could go, but that would be a very bad scenario.
Only 10 days away!! :lol: :lol:
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Hawk wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:53 pm Only 10 days away!! :lol: :lol:
I dont know about you, but a hurricane that has the potential to be devastating compared to 5 cm of snow on a map 10 days away is way different.

If you followed the trends which you never do, you know that it's been trending towards a potential canada landfall.
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Meanwhile... up to the high 20s over the next several days in the Similkameens. Very warm temps for mid Sept :wave:
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Mattman wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:24 pm Mr Sardins, I’ve always appreciated your levity. I think you’ve called me Doormat and Mattressmatt a few times.. The ribbing in banter, even on the receiving end, is good.

I was a kid when “global warming” became the rage, and then it morphed into “climate change.” I came of age in that time. Having three young little rug rats this isn’t even on my radar of things I’m concerned about for them. I don’t think government has let me down compared to my fear we’ve let government get too big—including renting out our critical thinking to an endless Legion of “experts.” I fear people acting out of fear and acquiescing more power to government. Whatever change in climate there is (and I’ve never seen a satisfactory explanation re: teasing out natural from anthropogenic change), I don’t doubt our ability to adapt as we have always done. I fear government standing in the way of that adaptation—making boneheaded decisions out of fear and their growing ability to control with policies that have zero cost-benefit to them. That we’re to just accept that the latest tax or punitive, crippling measure will make the weather gooder. I fear government laws, edits, mandates—whatever you want to call it—that will create artificial shortages in everything from energy, to car parts, to food production, and travel restrictions to assuage unwarranted fears. In short, us becoming Venezuela north. I fear in the not too distant future it'll be too expensive or government will prevent trips to Kelowna so my rug rats can see their grandparents.

Therefore, I fear the climate of fear that is growing in our culture. The fear that someone somewhere will be offended at a joke, or at a different opinion--especially in an age of now mandated speech of what is and isn't acceptable. The best antidote is humour. I’m slowly learning to not give a flying fig at those that get offended. And when it comes to government grabbing more power, boy, that deserves relentless mockery. Criticize away!
I just find it interesting that you are talking about fear as the main motivator here. For me, I'm not really starting out in a place of fear. I am simply observing what I see happening in front of my own eyes, which is then followed by the logical emotional responses that have been ingrained in me by evolution. I have dealt with fear, anxiety, and grief. Sometimes I've had hope. I've also had some degree of acceptance and frankly, apathy. These are all just coping mechanisms or normal responses. Fear can be a useful response in many situations, you have clearly evaluated it to be a reasonable response to the government. And furthermore, nobody here is excited to be scared or something. Nobody is enjoying this in some weird way.

What I see in my own backyard simply confirms what I had previously believed - that yes, the experts know what they are talking about. They predicted what's happening, and its happening. Experts are not perfect but when it comes to science they are the best we've got.

The amount of uncharacteristic weather events in recent years should be obvious to anyone paying attention. I mean in the year 2021 we saw the most extreme heatwave on record by far. This was followed by another extreme heatwave the same summer, followed by biblical rains leading to our worst floods in recent memory. Since then we've had many more anomalous weather events, including last autumn's incredible dry streak, two extended droughts in a row.

I am very observant to the massive changes in the ecology around me. Especially up on the sunshine coast at my cabin, where the beach used to be teeming with life. It is now barren. The trees are clearly stressed, we've had several die this year. I mean, I'm 35 and I can remember a much different environment. I cannot remember swimming in the ocean as a kid and it not feeling cold - it is like bathwater these days, during the summer anyways.

I do pay attention to what's happening around the world, and we are inundated with news of major floods and fires in all corners of the world. Violent hurricanes most years, tornadoes in the middle of winter, wildfires burning down towns in mid December. We see the arctic and antarctic undergoing extensive, extreme changes at an accelerating rate. We see animals migrating. Crops failing.

Maybe as someone living on the land I am more in tune with these changes too. Weather is a very important part of my life, more than just here on the forum but for growing crops, taking care of animals, and more.

So instead of the fearful, I consider us to be the observant. You clearly haven't seen what I have seen, and that's fine. But to chalk it up to some addiction to fear is just incorrect. Like I said, fear is simply the evolutionary response and its a perfectly reasonable response.
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Weather101 wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:59 pm I dont know about you, but a hurricane that has the potential to be devastating compared to 5 cm of snow on a map 10 days away is way different.

If you followed the trends which you never do, you know that it's been trending towards a potential canada landfall.
It will likely change back and forth but yeah anything even close to that would be terrible for Atlantic Canada. Especially after Halifax has already been hit with fires and floods this summer. It just keeps coming.
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Looks like a a beautiful weekend for Sept 10ish. Quite common. Have a nice weekend..enjoy the sunshine to all my weather friends :D
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PortKells wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:20 pm I just find it interesting that you are talking about fear as the main motivator here. For me, I'm not really starting out in a place of fear. I am simply observing what I see happening in front of my own eyes, which is then followed by the logical emotional responses that have been ingrained in me by evolution. I have dealt with fear, anxiety, and grief. Sometimes I've had hope. I've also had some degree of acceptance and frankly, apathy. These are all just coping mechanisms or normal responses. Fear can be a useful response in many situations, you have clearly evaluated it to be a reasonable response to the government. And furthermore, nobody here is excited to be scared or something. Nobody is enjoying this in some weird way.

What I see in my own backyard simply confirms what I had previously believed - that yes, the experts know what they are talking about. They predicted what's happening, and its happening. Experts are not perfect but when it comes to science they are the best we've got.

The amount of uncharacteristic weather events in recent years should be obvious to anyone paying attention. I mean in the year 2021 we saw the most extreme heatwave on record by far. This was followed by another extreme heatwave the same summer, followed by biblical rains leading to our worst floods in recent memory. Since then we've had many more anomalous weather events, including last autumn's incredible dry streak, two extended droughts in a row.

I am very observant to the massive changes in the ecology around me. Especially up on the sunshine coast at my cabin, where the beach used to be teeming with life. It is now barren. The trees are clearly stressed, we've had several die this year. I mean, I'm 35 and I can remember a much different environment. I cannot remember swimming in the ocean as a kid and it not feeling cold - it is like bathwater these days, during the summer anyways.

I do pay attention to what's happening around the world, and we are inundated with news of major floods and fires in all corners of the world. Violent hurricanes most years, tornadoes in the middle of winter, wildfires burning down towns in mid December. We see the arctic and antarctic undergoing extensive, extreme changes at an accelerating rate. We see animals migrating. Crops failing.

Maybe as someone living on the land I am more in tune with these changes too. Weather is a very important part of my life, more than just here on the forum but for growing crops, taking care of animals, and more.

So instead of the fearful, I consider us to be the observant. You clearly haven't seen what I have seen, and that's fine. But to chalk it up to some addiction to fear is just incorrect. Like I said, fear is simply the evolutionary response and its a perfectly reasonable response.
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PortKells wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:23 pm It will likely change back and forth but yeah anything even close to that would be terrible for Atlantic Canada. Especially after Halifax has already been hit with fires and floods this summer. It just keeps coming.
Definitely, it will change and might miss Atlantic Canada completely.

But for someone to laugh in a mocking way with it being 7 days away about a major hurricane is pretty tasteless, especially what after Halifax has been through and what hurricane Lee may do damage wise.
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