November 2021 Forecasts and Discussions

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Typeing3 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:07 pm So sumas lake really is back. At least temporarily. Just like Nov 1990 all over again. Though the flooding with this storm looks to be even worse.
This is absolutely devastating. A worst case scenario. Just awful. :thumbdown:
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Radar wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:26 pm Confirmed. Pumps have all failed. Water expected to be up to 10’ deep in areas. It’s already up to 5’. Water main broken and the whole prairie is having water shut off.
They haven't failed yet according to the mayor. But I get the sense that they expect them to fail.
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wetcoast91 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:36 pm For starters, we will probably need a few dry weeks, which is not looking likely. This lake will not recede without being pumped out.

Godspeed Abbotsford. This is going to be a very difficult few weeks.



Constructing the only roadway between Abbotsford and Chilliwack under river level in a floodplain is just completely idiotic.
I couldn’t agree more. This was bound to happen eventually.
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East Chilliwack wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:53 pm We spent the day hauling cattle out of the sumas prairie, it was already very scary with water rising quickly, we did what we could until police told us there was no more going in. This is going to be a huge catastrophe, with hundreds of thousands of dead animals. The Fraser is actually going to invade the flats because the pumps are down.
That must have been a stressful day. :ghug:

It's so sad. I just saw a video on CBC about herding some horses to safety with a boat. What a crazy time this is.

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Weather101 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:49 pm I couldn’t agree more. This was bound to happen eventually.
Considering the lake also temporarily reformed as the entire sumas plain also flooded during the Nov 1990 storm, one can safely assume governments never learn from their mistakes.

What makes it even more damming is that screenshot you posted regarding the city asking for more funding for the pumps back in 2013. And of course nothing was done.
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Good read here about the pumps:

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Has John checked in today?
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Typeing3 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:14 pm Considering the lake also temporarily reformed as the entire sumas plain also flooded during the Nov 1990 storm, one can safely assume governments never learn from their mistakes.

What makes it even more damming is that screenshot you posted regarding the city asking for more funding for the pumps back in 2013. And of course nothing was done.
Probably they'll get the funding now after the fact but it'll cost that much more now. :crazy:
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It's amazing how far inland this AR reached. It's just so rare to see that kind of flooding in the normally very dry climate of Merrit and Princeton (unless it's the freshet in the Spring).. I guess the fetch of that AR and the relentless conveyor belt of moisture funneled deep into the mountains and filled in the rain shadow. Something similar happened in the 2010 atmospheric river that caused severe flooding in Bella Coola. The rainfall totals were also similar to this one. There was severe flooding in the West Chilcotin region during that AR, a region normally in a rain shadow.
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Coquitlam79 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:34 pm It's amazing how far inland this AR reached. It's just so rare to see that kind of flooding in the normally very dry climate of Merrit and Princeton (unless it's the freshet in the Spring).. I guess the fetch of that AR and the relentless conveyor belt of moisture funneled deep into the mountains and filled in the rain shadow. Something similar happened in the 2010 atmospheric river that caused severe flooding in Bella Coola. The rainfall totals were also similar to this one. There was severe flooding in the West Chilcotin region during that AR, a region normally in a rain shadow.
Nice reads and informative tid bits the last few day's Cman. :thumbup:
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Chilly out this evening. Currently 2.1c here.
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SouthSardiswx wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:30 pm Probably they'll get the funding now after the fact but it'll cost that much more now. :crazy:
So is your workplace in Sumas? Or am I mistaken.
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Typeing3 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:56 pm I bloody well hope not.

Would mean more constant rain and no dry spells to speak of.
I think that was 98-99. The strong LA Nina year of record breaking snowpack. I remember 99-00 had an AR in mid December 99 and then dry spell. A snowy pattern jn early January 2000 and then a drier than normal winter after that.
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Forrest Gump wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:49 pm So is your workplace in Sumas? Or am I mistaken.
Yes it is guess l'm on an extended holiday for now, I'm not far from the Sumas border, let it snow let it snow, l'm bored already when's Santa coming Gumps.
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