November 2021 Forecasts and Discussions

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Re: November 2021 Forecasts and Discussions

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Weather101 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:14 pm No it’s war

Lol just joking man it’s all good 😊 :angel: no hard feelings at all.
Wasn't meaning to come off harsh but sometimes things typed don't come across the same as if spoken.
Hopefully everything settles down for a little while and we can go back to a Snow Watch forum instead of a Doomsday
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Hey, 0z NAM says I at least get to see some snow fall tomorrow :)
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About the Coquihalla:
Initial repair estimates include temporary reopening's consisting of temporary bridges, operational for January 2022 with full repair completed in September 2022. As a result of the washout events, the Canadian Forces Cormorant helicopters completed rescue evacuations of stranded motorists on the highway.
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Flakey wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:20 pm Wasn't meaning to come off harsh but sometimes things typed don't come across the same as if spoken.
Hopefully everything settles down for a little while and we can go back to a Snow Watch forum instead of a Doomsday
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I completely agree things typed don’t come off the way we sometimes mean them! All good man thanks for clarifying.

Agreed we could all use a nice 10 cm
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@CanadaGoose, you think the Nov 1909 AR event stacks up similarly with 1990 and 2021?
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Typeing3 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:28 pm @CanadaGoose, you think the Nov 1909 AR event stacks up similarly with 1990 and 2021?
Given the data you have posted, I think it's very similar. :thumbup:
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Created posts in new threads for the November 1909 and 1990 AR events with the totals across the region so they don't get lost in this thread.

November 1909: https://forums.bcstorms.ca/viewtopic.php?f=201&t=1451

November 1990:
https://forums.bcstorms.ca/viewtopic.php?f=201&t=1441

Feel free to add more historical info and/or data to either thread.
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Get the military involved and they can build these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailey_bridge

They can get erected surprisingly quickly. It will probably take more work to reinforce the footings on either side so they don’t erode than it will to erect the bridge(s) proper.

A Bailey bridge segment was used to get the I-5 Skagit River Bridge back in service when part of it collapsed.
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Catnip wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:58 pm It runs up to just south of the Coldwater Exit, from there it branched off, one line towards Merritt, the other towards Brookmeere-Tulameen-Coalmont-Princeton. A lot of the abondoned rail bed still remains and you can travel on it between the various places. The line from Brookmeere to Princeton is (was) the most in-tact part that I have travelled. The Coq Highway took away some portions of it between Brookmeere and Hope.

Here is a video I made years ago. We rode from what was then the abandoned Carolin Mines up to Coquihalla Lakes Lodge. We travel the old KVR on portions of the ride. A lot of the ride is on the Pipeline road. You can see the old snow shed and tunnels (that were shown in the video Nito posted) as well as the 3 old tunnels at the top portion of the line, right by the Coquihalla Lakes. We also travel through one of the old train tunnels.

https://youtu.be/M-RV4WSn_4g

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The old Railway Snowshed:

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Remnants of the many tressels that were in the area from Portia up to Coq Lakes.
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Some images of the three tunnels at the summit.
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I've used the pipeline road in the past to bypass the toll both :lol:
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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:27 pm Get the military involved and they can build these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailey_bridge

They can get erected surprisingly quickly. It will probably take more work to reinforce the footings on either side so they don’t erode than it will to erect the bridge(s) proper.

A Bailey bridge segment was used to get the I-5 Skagit River Bridge back in service when part of it collapsed.
Yep. Temporary fixes but will ensure movement of traffic and goods can re-commence in a timely fashion on #1 and #5, hopefully within the next few weeks.
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A really thorough read on the history of Sumas Lake:

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Forrest Gump wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:09 pm I've used the pipeline road in the past to bypass the toll both :lol:
The bypass by Falls Lake?
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Monty wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:16 pm I’m curious if the lack of snow in the Mountains makes the runoff faster. A deep snowpack can absorb a lot of water if the temps are only slightly above freezing at higher elevations.
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Catnip wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:24 pm The bypass by Falls Lake?
Just looked on Google maps , the turn off was well before Falls lake , I think it was called Portia pipeline rd which took us to Coquihalla lakes,just past the toll booth , but l see on Google maps they call it Coquihalla lakes rd. There was a gate to go through not far from Hwy, once it was closed but we just had to get out and pull it open . If I recall it took about an hour to travel on it , definitely a cool drive ,most of those photos look familiar so we must have been on the same road. We were on our way to Murray lake on the other side of Hwy. Looks like one of the damaged Coq areas is the Juliet creek turn off which goes under the hwy to get to other side. We only took the Portia pipeline rd on the way up , never going back home. Saving $10 was good enough. :crazy:
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Forrest Gump wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:35 pm Just looked on Google maps , the turn off was well before Falls lake , I think it was called Portia pipeline rd which took us to Coquihalla lakes,just past the toll booth , but l see on Google maps they call it Coquihalla lakes rd. There was a gate to go through not far from Hwy, once it was closed but we just had to get out and pull it open . If I recall it took about an hour to travel on it , definitely a cool drive ,most of those photos look familiar so we must have been on the same road. We were on our way to Murray lake on the other side of Hwy. Looks like one of the damaged Coq areas is the Juliet creek turn off which goes under the hwy to get to other side. We only took the Portia pipeline rd on the way up , never going back home. Saving $10 was good enough. :crazy:
Oh Cool! Same route I took in my video. The gates are solidly locked now though.

There was also the toll booth bypass from falls lake to coq lakes exit.
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