That low.??? 65k??? Damnwetcoast91 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:19 am EC has just been gutted and it looks even worse when you realize the population has grown along with density in many communities. Food for thought... Meteorologists get horribly underpaid for what they do, with some now making as low as 65k per year. This is why I shifted careers to surveying and forestry years ago and left the field of climatology. There is just no worth to it.
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Re: December 2022 Forecasts And Discussions
The underfunding of Environment Canada is chronic issue. Meanwhile, government continues to dump money into all manners of useless garbage which I will not name because this is not the politics thread.wetcoast91 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:19 am EC has just been gutted and it looks even worse when you realize the population has grown along with density in many communities. Food for thought... Meteorologists get horribly underpaid for what they do, with some now making as low as 65k per year. This is why I shifted careers to surveying and forestry years ago and left the field of climatology. There is just no worth to it.
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Re: December 2022 Forecasts And Discussions
So far ECMWF Ensemble doesn’t quite agree but I will check when the teleconnection updates also. The previous update from ECMWF Ensemble agrees somewhat with a neutral PNA forecast but it’s far into clown range.wetcoast91 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:26 am 7-14 day period? The pattern progression upstream seems to favour a return to the +PNA setup. Either way, the AO going positive is going to keep most of the cold bottled up North. No point wasting a nice offshore ridge on medicore cold.
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The closures in stations is quite astonishing too. Metro Vancouver had far better coverage even well over half a century ago roughly between the 1940s and 1990s, when many stations began shutting down, which continues today.wetcoast91 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:19 am EC has just been gutted and it looks even worse when you realize the population has grown along with density in many communities. Food for thought... Meteorologists get horribly underpaid for what they do, with some now making as low as 65k per year. This is why I shifted careers to surveying and forestry years ago and left the field of climatology. There is just no worth to it.
Somehow a growing population in our region has meant less stations in communities that often have extremely varied conditions due to the microclimates that exist here. And we're stuck with the official station representing the Vancouver region being situated right at sea level along the strait of Georgia.
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Re: December 2022 Forecasts And Discussions
Don't get me started on all the issues with EC these days! Let me just say that it seems like a low priority for funding by the Feds even though the impacts of weather especially of the severe type would make you think that the budget should be a lot higher so they could attract more and better qualified meteorologists.VanCitySouth wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:49 am The underfunding of Environment Canada is chronic issue. Meanwhile, government continues to dump money into all manners of useless garbage which I will not name because this is not the politics thread.
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The PNA doesn’t reach neutral until roughly day 15 which is too clown range to believe right nowwetcoast91 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:06 am Eastern weenies are so impatient. Past few ECMWF runs are showing a much milder and wetter pattern coming in the 7+ day period.
Overall a wetter and milder trend is coming.
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What do you expect to get paid for a hobby? You sit at a desk, don’t really create or build. It is like being paid to guess the price of gas at the pumps in 3 months. The only job where if you keep fooling a person you get the title as weatherman. The cleaning lady has to work harder.
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Re: December 2022 Forecasts And Discussions
Good. Two weeks of the same snow is too much. It’s all getting brown, icy and a pain to walk with.wetcoast91 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:06 am Eastern weenies are so impatient. Past few ECMWF runs are showing a much milder and wetter pattern coming in the 7+ day period.
Overall a wetter and milder trend is coming.
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This.Radar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:12 pm What do you expect to get paid for a hobby? You sit at a desk, don’t really create or build. It is like being paid to guess the price of gas at the pumps in 3 months. The only job where if you keep fooling a person you get the title as weatherman. The cleaning lady has to work harder.
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Because the general public doesn't care about weather so they see it as no need. People check there iPhone apps and move on with the day.Typeing3 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:56 am The closures in stations is quite astonishing too. Metro Vancouver had far better coverage even well over half a century ago roughly between the 1940s and 1990s, when many stations began shutting down, which continues today.
Somehow a growing population in our region has meant less stations in communities that often have extremely varied conditions due to the microclimates that exist here. And we're stuck with the official station representing the Vancouver region being situated right at sea level along the strait of Georgia.
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Yet if the forecast is wrong or no warnings at all it can have people's lives affected? Remember the June heat dome that killed 700 people? Or is that just a "hobby". Sounds like a pretty important "hobby " to me don't you think?Radar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:12 pm What do you expect to get paid for a hobby? You sit at a desk, don’t really create or build. It is like being paid to guess the price of gas at the pumps in 3 months. The only job where if you keep fooling a person you get the title as weatherman. The cleaning lady has to work harder.
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This is quite honestly one of the most ridiculous takes I have seen on here.Radar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:12 pm What do you expect to get paid for a hobby? You sit at a desk, don’t really create or build. It is like being paid to guess the price of gas at the pumps in 3 months. The only job where if you keep fooling a person you get the title as weatherman. The cleaning lady has to work harder.
7 years of post secondary studies for a job that has many requirements and requires non stop focus and attention to detail. It's not just reviewing global models like we do here.
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No kidding.wetcoast91 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:26 pm This is quite honestly one of the most ridiculous takes I have seen on here.
7 years of post secondary studies for a job that has many requirements and requires non stop focus and attention to detail. It's not just reviewing global models like we do here.
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Thank you for your restraintVanCitySouth wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:49 am The underfunding of Environment Canada is chronic issue. Meanwhile, government continues to dump money into all manners of useless garbage which I will not name because this is not the politics thread.
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Radar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:12 pm What do you expect to get paid for a hobby? You sit at a desk, don’t really create or build. It is like being paid to guess the price of gas at the pumps in 3 months. The only job where if you keep fooling a person you get the title as weatherman. The cleaning lady has to work harder.
A hobby. Like w101 said, lives are on the line. And livelihoods.
Also how do you manage to throw in an insult on the "cleaning lady" in all this mess?