June 2023 Forecasts and Discussions

[PortKells]

It’s time for….the drunkle.

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[PortKells]

This is so spot on. Nice post

Thanks, it is just an opinion and I’m sure I could be wrong about some aspects. But it doesn’t really sit right to call our current era anything other than completely unique. Other eras have sucked hard for many reasons including out of control fires but that doesn’t mitigate the doom anxiety for many, and their fears shouldn’t be shot down with graphs and statistics of shittier times with little context.

[PortKells]

Speaking of context, it’s too bad this weekend is starting to look like a decent soak but in the context of our drought it’s not nearly sufficient.

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[PortKells]

The euro is similar. It looks to be zonal/average which at the very least indicates favourable wind direction for local smoke. Although if the smoke is blowing in from the west maybe we’re screwed any which way.

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[Canada Goose]

Highest of the year in Canada recorded today in BC:

38.5°C Lytton
37.9°C Ashcroft
36.4°C Lillooet & Clearwater
36.1°C Revelstoke
36.0°C Kamloops
35.7°C Pemberton
35.5°C Vernon
35.4°C Blue River
35.1°C Kelowna
35.0°C Golden [785 m]
34.6°C Osoyoos
34.5°C Princeton
34.0°C Quesnel

[Typeing3]

Thanks, it is just an opinion and I’m sure I could be wrong about some aspects. But it doesn’t really sit right to call our current era anything other than completely unique. Other eras have sucked hard for many reasons including out of control fires but that doesn’t mitigate the doom anxiety for many, and their fears shouldn’t be shot down with graphs and statistics of shittier times with little context.

A dose of context with graphs and statistics does not equate to "shooting down fears".

[HarrisonSasquatchWx]

Virga @ my work in Abbs down near Sumas is creating this amazing rainbow.
It's weird to see a full rainbow with not a drop falling to the ground this is indeed rare.

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[HarrisonSasquatchWx]

EC shows rain in the Valley for Saturday. Could use a good soak

Nice to see you or rather hardly see you Slyts chime in during our annual drought and heat hump season.

[Mattman]

Thanks, it is just an opinion and I’m sure I could be wrong about some aspects. But it doesn’t really sit right to call our current era anything other than completely unique. Other eras have sucked hard for many reasons including out of control fires but that doesn’t mitigate the doom anxiety for many, and their fears shouldn’t be shot down with graphs and statistics of shittier times with little context.

There is an inversion here (pun intended):the more impassioned one is, the more one calls it a “crisis”, the more gut feelings that this has never been seen before, that emotive-driven sense is treated as lending credence to “the science”; it should be—as much as humanly possible for we aren’t Vulcans—dispassionate scepticism of prevailing narratives rather than the other way around. That’s especially true in this climate (pun intended again) where corporations fawning over ESG scores, government, media, and the academy are in lockstep that we’re in a “climate crisis.” That’s a dangerous cocktail for political science. We need more even-keel, cost/benefit analysis per Bjørn Lomborg and no emotive hysterics per Greta Thunberg. Otherwise, and this is where I have fear, that the populous will be so browbeaten that there is a “climate crisis” that boneheaded authoritarian measures will ensue easily. My three kids love visiting my folks in Kelowna: their Poppy & Gigi. I fear “papers please!”, lockdown-type measures on a fearful, compliant population in a few years that would restrict such travel if the brakes of skepticism aren’t slammed on.

I’m sceptical of “unprecedented,” “unique,”never-seen-before claims by media, so-called experts, and even layman. (Gawd, aren't we all sick of "experts" by now?!) What was weather and climate here in the Medieval Warm Period? The Roman Warm Period? We have, what, at best only 130-150 years of detailed records in western Canada and the PNW? It’s also reasonable to deduce that decades’ worth of brush buildup makes big fires. Not a surprise. And there is reason to be skepical of garbage in garbage out models when all the aforementioned actors wielding authority are in lockstep. Sorry not sorry, I’m wholly unconvinced of the ability to tease out anthropogenic from cyclical factors. Too many thumbs on the scale. I therefore agree with Lomborg re: adaptation vs crippling, goofy Green New Deal economics that lather on authoritarianism with social credit score-like measures.

Lastly, in a couple weeks I leave the Mrs and the youngest home for a week as I take the oldest two (ages 6 and almost 5) to a family reunion in Lacombe, AB. My kids' Poppy & Gigi will be there, so the kids are stoked. Still clown range, but looking average weather-wise. That's perfect. They’ll see for the first time flat land.

P.S. No offence intended here PortKells, but whenever “greed” is lathered on, it comes across as though that trait is more pervasive in the other compared to the one dishing out the label. I'll admit that I do think commie lite, Bernie Sandersish. There may be a sliver of truth there, but it’s just that—a sliver. All of us are capable of profound greed merely because of being human. Before he was famous, I watched some of Dr. Jordan Peterson’s classroom lectures. He artfully impressed upon his students how they are capable of the evil they say they are so repulsed by. One of the books he recommended was Ordinary Men. I then read it. I was a fairly new dad and similar in age and status to the men in the book. It left me crying (for real crying) in fear and repulsed not by what they did, but because I saw no difference between those men and myself. Not you, Kells, but I get the creeps from these radical leftist politicians and academics that wail about “greed” and “privilege” because they’re incapable of introspection into their own corrupt, resentful hearts.

[John]

There is an inversion here (pun intended):the more impassioned one is, the more one calls it a “crisis”, the more gut feelings that this has never been seen before, that emotive-driven sense is treated as lending credence to “the science”; it should be—as much as humanly possible for we aren’t Vulcans—dispassionate scepticism of prevailing narratives rather than the other way around. That’s especially true in this climate (pun intended again) where corporations fawning over ESG scores, government, media, and the academy are in lockstep that we’re in a “climate crisis.” That’s a dangerous cocktail for political science. We need more even-keel, cost/benefit analysis per Bjørn Lomborg and no emotive hysterics per Greta Thunberg. Otherwise, and this is where I have fear, that the populous will be so browbeaten that there is a “climate crisis” that boneheaded authoritarian measures will ensue easily. My three kids love visiting my folks in Kelowna: their Poppy & Gigi. I fear “papers please!”, lockdown-type measures on a fearful, compliant population in a few years that would restrict such travel if the brakes of skepticism aren’t slammed on.

I’m sceptical of “unprecedented,” “unique,”never-seen-before claims by media, so-called experts, and even layman. (Gawd, aren't we all sick of "experts" by now?!) What was weather and climate here in the Medieval Warm Period? The Roman Warm Period? We have, what, at best only 130-150 years of detailed records in western Canada and the PNW? It’s also reasonable to deduce that decades’ worth of brush buildup makes big fires. Not a surprise. And there is reason to be skepical of garbage in garbage out models when all the aforementioned actors wielding authority are in lockstep. Sorry not sorry, I’m wholly unconvinced of the ability to tease out anthropogenic from cyclical factors. Too many thumbs on the scale. I therefore agree with Lomborg re: adaptation vs crippling, goofy Green New Deal economics that lather on authoritarianism with social credit score-like measures.

Lastly, in a couple weeks I leave the Mrs and the youngest home for a week as I take the oldest two (ages 6 and almost 5) to a family reunion in Lacombe, AB. My kids' Poppy & Gigi will be there, so the kids are stoked. Still clown range, but looking average weather-wise. That's perfect. They’ll see for the first time flat land.

P.S. No offence intended here PortKells, but whenever “greed” is lathered on, it comes across as though that trait is more pervasive in the other compared to the one dishing out the label. I'll admit that I do think commie lite, Bernie Sandersish. There may be a sliver of truth there, but it’s just that—a sliver. All of us are capable of profound greed merely because of being human. Before he was famous, I watched some of Dr. Jordan Peterson’s classroom lectures. He artfully impressed upon his students how they are capable of the evil they say they are so repulsed by. One of the books he recommended was Ordinary Men. I then read it. I was a fairly new dad and similar in age and status to the men in the book. It left me crying (for real crying) in fear and repulsed not by what they did, but because I saw no difference between those men and myself. Not you, Kells, but I get the creeps from these radical leftist politicians and academics that wail about “greed” and “privilege” because they’re incapable of introspection into their own corrupt, resentful hearts.

Wow, your dead on!

[Canada Goose]

[PortKells]

There is an inversion here (pun intended):the more impassioned one is, the more one calls it a “crisis”, the more gut feelings that this has never been seen before, that emotive-driven sense is treated as lending credence to “the science”; it should be—as much as humanly possible for we aren’t Vulcans—dispassionate scepticism of prevailing narratives rather than the other way around. That’s especially true in this climate (pun intended again) where corporations fawning over ESG scores, government, media, and the academy are in lockstep that we’re in a “climate crisis.” That’s a dangerous cocktail for political science. We need more even-keel, cost/benefit analysis per Bjørn Lomborg and no emotive hysterics per Greta Thunberg. Otherwise, and this is where I have fear, that the populous will be so browbeaten that there is a “climate crisis” that boneheaded authoritarian measures will ensue easily. My three kids love visiting my folks in Kelowna: their Poppy & Gigi. I fear “papers please!”, lockdown-type measures on a fearful, compliant population in a few years that would restrict such travel if the brakes of skepticism aren’t slammed on.

I’m sceptical of “unprecedented,” “unique,”never-seen-before claims by media, so-called experts, and even layman. (Gawd, aren't we all sick of "experts" by now?!) What was weather and climate here in the Medieval Warm Period? The Roman Warm Period? We have, what, at best only 130-150 years of detailed records in western Canada and the PNW? It’s also reasonable to deduce that decades’ worth of brush buildup makes big fires. Not a surprise. And there is reason to be skepical of garbage in garbage out models when all the aforementioned actors wielding authority are in lockstep. Sorry not sorry, I’m wholly unconvinced of the ability to tease out anthropogenic from cyclical factors. Too many thumbs on the scale. I therefore agree with Lomborg re: adaptation vs crippling, goofy Green New Deal economics that lather on authoritarianism with social credit score-like measures.

Lastly, in a couple weeks I leave the Mrs and the youngest home for a week as I take the oldest two (ages 6 and almost 5) to a family reunion in Lacombe, AB. My kids' Poppy & Gigi will be there, so the kids are stoked. Still clown range, but looking average weather-wise. That's perfect. They’ll see for the first time flat land.

P.S. No offence intended here PortKells, but whenever “greed” is lathered on, it comes across as though that trait is more pervasive in the other compared to the one dishing out the label. I'll admit that I do think commie lite, Bernie Sandersish. There may be a sliver of truth there, but it’s just that—a sliver. All of us are capable of profound greed merely because of being human. Before he was famous, I watched some of Dr. Jordan Peterson’s classroom lectures. He artfully impressed upon his students how they are capable of the evil they say they are so repulsed by. One of the books he recommended was Ordinary Men. I then read it. I was a fairly new dad and similar in age and status to the men in the book. It left me crying (for real crying) in fear and repulsed not by what they did, but because I saw no difference between those men and myself. Not you, Kells, but I get the creeps from these radical leftist politicians and academics that wail about “greed” and “privilege” because they’re incapable of introspection into their own corrupt, resentful hearts.

Although we seem to disagree on some things and not on others, this was an enjoyable read, thank you for that. Maybe when I’m home from work I can write out a worthy response. Either way I certainly hope your Alberta trip goes off smoothly and the weather gets a bit more favourable.

[stuffradio]

There's some drizzle in Abbotsford apparently.

[Roberts Creeker]

There's some drizzle in Abbotsford apparently.

Read about scattered sprinkles on the Island too.

Nothing here but it sure feels like it could rain. EC has medium chance (60%) of showers from 2 pm onward. They've also added showers for tomorrow too. Fingers crossed!

[Bonovox]

Had some drops of rain at YVR. I stood outside and stared longingly at the sky. It was glorious.