July 2023 Forecasts and Discussions

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Re: July 2023 Forecasts and Discussions

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I'm calling bovine excrement on our drought classification:
1. The colour scheme is hyperbolic. By their own lousy metrics there should be shades of blue or green for 0-3 with yellow beginning at four.
2. It looks completely subjective. Where are the objective metrics? How about a rolling average of a departure from normal of precipitation and soil moister over x months. And there would have to be multiple rural and urban or suburban measurements in a district.

Can anyone point to objective measures here? Who decides and how do they decide the drought level? Looks to me that this classification system was made by bureaucrats to turn up the fear dial on an unsuspecting public that doesn't have time to be curious, and an incurious media.

There, I feel better :)
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Mattman wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:20 am I'm calling bovine excrement on our drought classification:
1. The colour scheme is hyperbolic. By their own lousy metrics there should be shades of blue or green for 0-3 with yellow beginning at four.
2. It looks completely subjective. Where are the objective metrics? How about a rolling average of a departure from normal of precipitation and soil moister over x months. And there would have to be multiple rural and urban or suburban measurements in a district.

Can anyone point to objective measures here? Who decides and how do they decide the drought level? Looks to me that this classification system was made by bureaucrats to turn up the fear dial on an unsuspecting public that doesn't have time to be curious, and an incurious media.

There, I feel better :)
Wow Mr. Doormatt, l could not have said it better at all but l'm glad you cleared it up and for that l feel better as well thank you. :D
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00z GFS ensembles:
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00z ECMWF ensembles:
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Rain!
It's called clown range for a reason.
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stuffradio wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:04 am I would think it signifies dryness.
That makes sense. Thank you!
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July 1-16, 2022 vs. 2023...

Blue is BC and red is other places in Canada.
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I heard about this website this morning on 650 on a radio ad https://www.goweatherhood.com/. I looked because they advertised they were providing their own weather forecasts from weather stations of their own across the lower mainland. I don't know who is funding it or how they're powering their forecasts. Whenever you click on any of the city locations, it links to vancouverisawesome.
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1.5 mm of rain this morning, but the sun is already out. Beats getting nothing, I guess.
It's called clown range for a reason.
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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:19 am 1.5 mm of rain this morning, but the sun is already out. Beats getting nothing, I guess.
Not enough, Rubes. Not enough. I want endless stratiform rain. :(
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Bonovox wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:48 am Not enough, Rubes. Not enough. I want endless stratiform rain. :(
Best I can do is smoke and falling ash.
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wetcoast91 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:06 pm Best I can do is smoke and falling ash.

But, dude, I thought we weren't in a drought and the wildfire risk was over.


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Mattman wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:20 am I'm calling bovine excrement on our drought classification:
1. The colour scheme is hyperbolic. By their own lousy metrics there should be shades of blue or green for 0-3 with yellow beginning at four.
2. It looks completely subjective. Where are the objective metrics? How about a rolling average of a departure from normal of precipitation and soil moister over x months. And there would have to be multiple rural and urban or suburban measurements in a district.

Can anyone point to objective measures here? Who decides and how do they decide the drought level? Looks to me that this classification system was made by bureaucrats to turn up the fear dial on an unsuspecting public that doesn't have time to be curious, and an incurious media.

There, I feel better :)
Glad you feel better...but seems like a pretty technical sitch that i couldn't be bothered to research or help with sorry. But it is really dry out there :think:
Had a passing shower this am in Langley. It intensified quite a bit then tapered off. Lasted about 30 minutes. Sadly, the grasses did not approve of it
Looking forward to our first 3 day stretch of sun and 20c++ 8-)
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Typeing3 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:49 am 00z GFS ensembles:
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00z ECMWF ensembles:
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00z GEM ensembles:
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Euro is looking solid again :clap: :clap:
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High-amp positive CG from an elevated thunderstorm over Mount Ellesmere near Britannia Beach at 1:22pm (at least I think the storm was elevated based on comparing 0.4° and 1.6° tilts)

This was about 150 kilometers away from the closest organized convection
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