July 2023 Forecasts and Discussions

[Glacier]

NOTE: For this graph Pemberton is considered "interior" because the average temperature is higher than Kamloops and Penticton, so resembles more interior temperatures than coastal...

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[wetcoast91]

I have no clue why climate scientists are still on Twitter. It's been taken over by bots who put down scientists and calls everyone that spits out facts alarmists. I have seen claims on Twitter that temperatures never reached the 40's in the Fraser Valley in 2021 because "some peoples" thermometers only reached 30°C

We are obviously passed the point of curbing emissions or doing any corrective action but now we have the same jackasses and politicians going against measures to mitigate the impacts of climate change on us. We need more community food production, less paved surfaces, green roofs, artifical shading, etc...

[Glacier]

I have no clue why climate scientists are still on Twitter. It's been taken over by bots who put down scientists and calls everyone that spits out facts alarmists. I have seen claims on Twitter that temperatures never reached the 40's in the Fraser Valley in 2021 because "some peoples" thermometers only reached 30°C

We are obviously passed the point of curbing emissions or doing any corrective action but now we have the same jackasses and politicians going against measures to mitigate the impacts of climate change on us. We need more community food production, less paved surfaces, green roofs, artifical shading, etc...

Anyone who says the planet hasn't warmed is an idiot and delusional. And to say that it wasn't 40 during the 2021 heat wave is beyond delusional. So many thermometers at well situated locations were way above 40 on the Lower Mainland that it was undeniable. At least you'd think.

At the same time, trying to link every hurricane, drought and flood to climate change that I see all the time is almost as stupid. There's no significant correlation between precipitation and climate change, especially when it comes to drought and hurricanes. Plus single events are weather not climate.

[Rubus_Leucodermis]

At the same time, trying to link every hurricane, drought and flood to climate change that I see all the time is almost as stupid. There's no significant correlation between precipitation and climate change, especially when it comes to drought and hurricanes. Plus single events are weather not climate.

Air at warmer temperatures can hold more moisture, which both makes it easier for evaporation to dry things out and means there can be more water vapor available to condense into precipitation. A warming planet has long been predicted to have both more droughts and more floods.

That said, yes, it is hard to pin any one event on climate change. What matters most is the overall pattern of events.

[Bonovox]

I have no clue why climate scientists are still on Twitter. It's been taken over by bots who put down scientists and calls everyone that spits out facts alarmists. I have seen claims on Twitter that temperatures never reached the 40's in the Fraser Valley in 2021 because "some peoples" thermometers only reached 30°C

We are obviously passed the point of curbing emissions or doing any corrective action but now we have the same jackasses and politicians going against measures to mitigate the impacts of climate change on us. We need more community food production, less paved surfaces, green roofs, artifical shading, etc...

Well said. My sentiments exactly.

[Roberts Creeker]

No wonder Gumps has been so quiet.. he thought to take his backhoe out for a drive onto the pier!


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Well that looks like an adventure! Yikes!!

[Glacier]

Here is some major climate change. 10 m away at the Nav Canada station and the dewpoint is WAY different!

And I don't want you science deniers claiming that the Government of Canada contracted out to Nav Canada who gives zero rips about data accuracy. Instruments are 100% accurate 100% of the time even if never calibrated!

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[Weather101]

https://twitter.com/frankiemacd/status/ ... QmneQ&s=19

[Weather101]

I have no clue why climate scientists are still on Twitter. It's been taken over by bots who put down scientists and calls everyone that spits out facts alarmists. I have seen claims on Twitter that temperatures never reached the 40's in the Fraser Valley in 2021 because "some peoples" thermometers only reached 30°C

We are obviously passed the point of curbing emissions or doing any corrective action but now we have the same jackasses and politicians going against measures to mitigate the impacts of climate change on us. We need more community food production, less paved surfaces, green roofs, artifical shading, etc...

The amount of hate I saw in his mentions we're unreal.. The amount of people that called him a liar was almost every reply I couldn't believe it.

[Weather101]

Anyone who says the planet hasn't warmed is an idiot and delusional. And to say that it wasn't 40 during the 2021 heat wave is beyond delusional. So many thermometers at well situated locations were way above 40 on the Lower Mainland that it was undeniable. At least you'd think.

At the same time, trying to link every hurricane, drought and flood to climate change that I see all the time is almost as stupid. There's no significant correlation between precipitation and climate change, especially when it comes to drought and hurricanes. Plus single events are weather not climate.

You can't pin it to one event but the overall theme is more extreme events and that will continue to happen.

[wetcoast91]

Air at warmer temperatures can hold more moisture, which both makes it easier for evaporation to dry things out and means there can be more water vapor available to condense into precipitation. A warming planet has long been predicted to have both more droughts and more floods.

That said, yes, it is hard to pin any one event on climate change. What matters most is the overall pattern of events.

It's a ridiculous take. Latent heat in the atmosphere and SST kin energy leads to storm development. Add more heat (energy) and the result becomes obvious. To suggest global warming doesn't fuel more intense and extreme storms disregards the laws of thermodynamics.

You can't pin it to one event but the overall theme is more extreme events and that will continue to happen.

You can also see the trends in our ecosystem. The forests are rapidly drying out on Vancouver Island. It was absolutely shocking to see during my last visit.

[Typeing3]

12z GFS ensembles:

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12z ECMWF ensembles:

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12z GEM ensembles:

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[Typeing3]

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[Roberts Creeker]

12z GFS ensembles:
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12z ECMWF ensembles:
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12z GEM ensembles:
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Thank you! Looking great! some good news in that little rainy day. Let's hope it continues to grow.

I had a 2-3 mm from the last showers. Interesting when I drove to Sechelt and Gibsons the roads were dry so it was mostly just for me. Sechelt recorded 0.1mm and same for Gibsons.

[PortKells]

“June was the hottest ever in NOAA's climate record: Earth's average global temperature in June was 1.89 degrees above average, making it the hottest June in the 174-years global climate record. It also marked the 47th-consecutive June and the 532nd-consecutive month with temperatures above the 20th-century average, according to the National Atmospheric and Oceanographic Administration.
The past seven years have been the Earth's hottest: The years between 2015 and 2021 were Earth's warmest on record "by a clear margin," according to research by the Copernicus Climate Change Service, a group affiliated with the European Union. So far, 2021 was the planet's fifth-warmest year on record. The two warmest years, according to the Copernicus group, were 2020 and 2016.
2023 could be the warmest on record: “It is actually almost a certainty that this will be the warmest year globally,” Michael Mann, a climate scientist and professor at the University of Pennsylvania, told USA TODAY. The current record for the warmest year is 58.69 degrees over the global land and ocean, set in 2016, during the last El Niño. Last year's global average was just below that, at 58.44 degrees.
The Atlantic Ocean hit its highest temperatures since records began in 1850: Surface temperatures in the North Atlantic have hit "unprecedented" temperatures, almost 3 degrees warmer than typical for summer. The figure – the highest since in a series of temperature recordings that go back to 1850 – broke records "by a wide margin," according to England's Meteorological Office.”


I doubt these facts will change any minds but what the hell.