July 2023 Forecasts and Discussions

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Re: July 2023 Forecasts and Discussions

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Typeing3 wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:05 am Winnipeg!

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00z GFS ensembles:
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I'm getting the vibes of a last minute jump in modelled temperatures with those ensembles in the second week leading to a decent heat wave, but I hope to be wrong. I'm ready to cruise through a few weeks with 25C highs and a few clouds here and there.
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Hawk wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:45 am :lol:
uhhhh no. You get to enjoy that from Oct to April :thumbup:
Soon you'll get to enjoy dry and hot for 6 months of the year.... :silent:
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CommodityWx on Twitter shared an image and said they see models starting to shift towards the idea of a trough ridge trough pattern like what happened in June for August. The image showed a cooler west coast, hotter in the central CONUS and cool on the east again. They also mentioned 2009 as an analog for the winter.

It's kind of like this idea here
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Bonovox wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:36 am Another 6 months of daily 5-10mm rain would be better.
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stuffradio wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:53 pm CommodityWx on Twitter shared an image and said they see models starting to shift towards the idea of a trough ridge trough pattern like what happened in June for August. The image showed a cooler west coast, hotter in the central CONUS and cool on the east again. They also mentioned 2009 as an analog for the winter.

It's kind of like this idea here
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2008/2009 would be alright. 2009/2010 maybe not.
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stuffradio wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:53 pm CommodityWx on Twitter shared an image and said they see models starting to shift towards the idea of a trough ridge trough pattern like what happened in June for August. The image showed a cooler west coast, hotter in the central CONUS and cool on the east again. They also mentioned 2009 as an analog for the winter.

It's kind of like this idea here
ecmwf_z500a_namer_49.png
2009 had an dry arctic blast in December. And a surprise snowfall later that month when an entrenched inversion did not scour out in response to an incoming system as it was forecast to. Else it was the standard El Niño turd burger. At least that was the story in Portland. Was it any different up this way?
It's called clown range for a reason.
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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:56 pm 2009 had an dry arctic blast in December. And a surprise snowfall later that month when an entrenched inversion did not scour out in response to an incoming system as it was forecast to. Else it was the standard El Niño turd burger. At least that was the story in Portland. Was it any different up this way?
I believe December 2009 featured the mother of all busts here, when a Winter Storm Warning for something like 20-40 cm of snow turned into 2 hours of snow at the airport then rain all night.

That winter is responsible for this forum's paranoia about busts, and is not fondly remembered.
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VanCitySouth wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:10 pm I believe December 2009 featured the mother of all busts here, when a Winter Storm Warning for something like 20-40 cm of snow turned into 2 hours of snow at the airport then rain all night.

That winter is responsible for this forum's paranoia about busts, and is not fondly remembered.
It's the Jan 8th 2011 bust that will live on in infamy Van man the models had shown snow and cold headed our way and as the Red Wings scored the OT winner over the Canucks the models that night totally collapsed it still haunts many of us. :(
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SouthSardiswx wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:38 pm It's the Jan 8th 2011 bust that will live on in infamy Van man the models had shown snow and cold headed our way and as the Red Wings scored the OT winner over the Canucks the models that night totally collapsed it still haunts many of us. :(
Oh was it that? I stand corrected. I always thought it was right after the epic winter.
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VanCitySouth wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:10 pm I believe December 2009 featured the mother of all busts here, when a Winter Storm Warning for something like 20-40 cm of snow turned into 2 hours of snow at the airport then rain all night.

That winter is responsible for this forum's paranoia about busts, and is not fondly remembered.
I remember that epic failure fondly. One of the all time greats for sure. :thumbdown:
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stuffradio wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:53 pm CommodityWx on Twitter shared an image and said they see models starting to shift towards the idea of a trough ridge trough pattern like what happened in June for August. The image showed a cooler west coast, hotter in the central CONUS and cool on the east again. They also mentioned 2009 as an analog for the winter.

It's kind of like this idea here
ecmwf_z500a_namer_49.png
Looks more like a El Neetz pattern :x we reached a high of 25c today in the central valley.
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Typeing3 wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:41 pm I remember that epic failure fondly. One of the all time greats for sure. :thumbdown:
Wait now I'm confused. Sardine says it was January 2011. I always remembered it as the one right after 08/09 because I remember thinking to myself "wow I can't believe we're lucky enough for two epic Decembers in a row" before it all collapsed spectacularly.
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Sunny with gusty winds all across the southern prairies (Medicine Hat to Regina) today with high temps hovering between 29c and 32c. With the exception of the Cypress Hills, the Lethbridge to Moose Jaw corridor -- SE Alberta and SW Saskatchewan -- is just about as dry as the valleys of the Thompson-Okanagan.

First pic is from east of Swift Current, second is from Regina.
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VanCitySouth wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:43 pm Wait now I'm confused. Sardine says it was January 2011. I always remembered it as the one right after 08/09 because I remember thinking to myself "wow I can't believe we're lucky enough for two epic Decembers in a row" before it all collapsed spectacularly.
Both December 2009 and January 2011 had separate massive snowstorm forecasts which turned out to be epic failures at the last minute.
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VanCitySouth wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:43 pm Wait now I'm confused. Sardine says it was January 2011. I always remembered it as the one right after 08/09 because I remember thinking to myself "wow I can't believe we're lucky enough for two epic Decembers in a row" before it all collapsed spectacularly.
That's perhaps due to it did snow at least were we coming out of an Arctic blast perhaps? unlike Jan 2011 where we were supposed to go into an event.
We've had several snow busts over the years after an Arctic blast
I guess l categorize them separately.
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