January 2024 Forecasts and Discussions

[PortKells]

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Toasty. Looks like this month will end up comfortably warmer than normal.

[Radar]

Toasty. Looks like this month will end up comfortably warmer than normal.

Like I always say, its about balance. With cold comes heat. I like the extremes a bit. Better than high of 5 and drizzle everyday.

[VanCitySouth]

Maybe I should change Team Climo's icon on my scoreboard from to

[Typeing3]

Vancouver's attitude towards snow hasn't changed in over 100 years, says historian
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.7089837

City helped shaped Vancouver's image after its incorporation as a place with mild winters to draw visitors

Snow seems to bring out the worst in Vancouver, with stalled buses, spun out cars, and a city paralyzed by a few centimetres blanketing the ground.

It's a phenomenon historian Blake Butler calls "the evergreen mentality," or Vancouver's lack of preparedness and denial of annual snowfall events.

"It's the idea that Vancouver is a place devoid of snow, when in fact it's part of the coast's climate, albeit not as much as the rest of Canada," he said.

Butler, a historical researcher with Know History in Ottawa, dove into Vancouver's history to understand its relationship with snow for his 2023 PhD dissertation.


Since its incorporation, Vancouver has been thought of as a temperate and snowless city, despite snow being an annual occurrence, says historian Blake Butler. Pictured here is a snowy Georgia Street sometime in the early 20th century. (Vancouver Public Library Special Collections Historical Photographs)

In it he reveals the impact snow has had "on a seemingly snowless place," from the city avoiding costly snow removal to seeing a boom in mountain-based winter businesses.

"It's very easy to overlook snow in Vancouver because we typically don't get it that frequently," he said, adding Vancouver's attitude toward snow today is the same as it was 100 years ago.


Perception vs. reality

Butler says he discovered Vancouver has received snow nearly every year since the 1850s — but its image suggests otherwise, with many perceiving it as a mild, rainy city.

"When it does snow in Vancouver … it's often very short-lived," he said, "but it does snow every year."

He credits the City of Vancouver and large corporations for the city's image, promoting it after its incorporation in 1886 as having temperate winters to draw people in.

Even the media, as far back as 1901, described snow as something that "comes quickly and disappears more quickly" in Vancouver, Butler says, resulting in its winter image as "Canada's evergreen playground."

"[They] really downplayed the idea that snow was on the coast [and] redefined it as something that was unnatural," he said.

"There are more winters with snow than without snow, but attitudes have generally remained the same."

This belief, along with the expectation that rain would soon follow snow, has played a role in how people in the city have managed snow events, he says.

Of a particular snow day in 1911, reporters for The Province wrote, "the visitor from the prairies will soon make itself scarce" after rain arrived in a day or two.

An article from the same newspaper in 1927 said rain was "Vancouver's 100 per cent street cleaner," and another 1911 story said the average homeowner believed "in letting nature take its course" when it comes to dealing with snow.

These seem to have led Vancouverites to become complacent when it comes to preparing ahead for snow, including shovelling their sidewalks, Butler says.

Even the City of Vancouver, he adds, failed to follow or reinforce city bylaws when it came to street and sidewalk cleaning until the late 1920s, due to its costly nature.

The amalgamation of Vancouver, South Vancouver and Point Grey in 1929 forced the city to buy sanding trucks as its first pieces of modern machinery to manage roads and winter weather, he says.

Meanwhile, the opposite was expected when it came to the southern Coast Mountains, where snow allowed businesses to flourish.

"Snow really connected people throughout the 20th century with the mountains … [especially] the development of the ski industry and ski culture," he said.

He adds that easy access to fresh drinking water and hydroelectricity from mountain snowmelt, since the late 19th century, has allowed Vancouver to grow "from a small outpost … into a burgeoning metropolis."

Nevertheless, Butler says, Vancouver gets the best of both worlds for lovers and haters of snow.

"If you enjoy it, go out and and have fun," he said, "and if you hate it, you can wait it out usually."

[Weather101]

Vancouver's attitude towards snow hasn't changed in over 100 years, says historian
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.7089837

Great read.

On top of that, people move here with zero experience in snow or have never seen snow before. So they are clueless and don't care to slow down and be careful.

[Typeing3]

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12z ECMWF ensembles:

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12z GEM ensembles:

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[Feetz of Snow]

We made it back all in one piece!
Omg did we hit a snow storm at duke point!
And it continued all night!
We complain about roads not being plowed here!
Try driving Island hwy! Seen not one plow
Mind you very few cars on road!
How was the storm here?

[Radar]

So.... I can cut the grass on Feb 1st?

12z GFS ensembles:
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12z ECMWF ensembles:
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12z GEM ensembles:
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[tyweather]

Some colder ensembles showing up for sure.

[AbbyJr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHW1T7boSc

[Mattman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHW1T7boSc

That’s good, Jr. reminds me of when the Onion was good at satire 15ish years ago. These are gems.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=siM6CPniUgU

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[Weather101]

Dead here lol

[Weather101]

[Hawk]

Looks like the transition to rain will finally happen in the Similkameeeens tomorrow. But what a solid 2 week period just passed wow. Lows down to near -40 for 3 nights froze the lakes up good...finally. Then many snowy days afterwards. Yesssss
Its looking really good

[wetcoast91]

Dead here lol

To sum up model trends.

All rain for the local mountains the next 10 days. Very warm, drippy, rainy and damp.

Signs towards a cool and chilly start to February but zero arctic air with warming in the arctic.