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It was disturbing to hear about how many BC Conservatives refuse to stand up to Trump. Does anyone here regret voting Conservative now that the party is basically self-destructing?
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Abby_wx wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:37 am It was disturbing to hear about how many BC Conservatives refuse to stand up to Trump. Does anyone here regret voting Conservative now that the party is basically self-destructing?
Danielle Smith as well. Pretty embarrassing, really, especially since shutting off the oil taps would hit the US pretty hard.

We need refineries here; it's a no brainer, but over the last few decades there have been closures rather than any new ones opening up which pretty much forces our hand to ship the raw stuff down south, get it refined there and ship it back here for 10 times the price.

So many things like this pretty much epitomizes the state of our country. Mentioned this in a prior post but we should be more self reliant like we once were but successive governments since the 1980s have sold out with the rise of neoliberal economics.
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Typeing3 wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:42 pm Danielle Smith as well. Pretty embarrassing, really, especially since shutting off the oil taps would hit the US pretty hard.

We need refineries here; it's a no brainer, but over the last few decades there have been closures rather than any new ones opening up which pretty much forces our hand to ship the raw stuff down south, get it refined there and ship it back here for 10 times the price.

So many things like this pretty much epitomizes the state of our country. Mentioned this in a prior post but we should be more self reliant like we once were but successive governments since the 1980s have sold out with the rise of neoliberal economics.
If only North Gateway would have been built, we could have exported oil overseas and not relied on pipelines south to Texas! Shut off the tap south, and Alberta goes bankrupt within the year. It would be like BC banning 80% of logging and mining in the province overnight. The Americans would know this hurts us more than them so they'd just up the ante.
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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:53 pm Not Typer, but personally, as to the first question, I think that Israel had approximately the same right to deal with the violation of its territorial sovereignty that happened on Oct 7th that Ukraine had to deal with Russia when Russia invaded.

Namely, Israel had the right to expel the invaders (or take prisoners of war) and secure its internationally-recognized borders by any means necessary. And I had exactly zero problem with Israel doing that.

And that’s about it. Any other occupation of Palestinian territory might be justified as a bargaining chip to get back occupied Israeli territory, except unlike with Ukraine, there was no occupied Israeli territory; Israel expelled the invaders with ease. As one would expect, given their status as the most effective military in the region.
That's fair. It makes sense. I guess when it comes to the hostages, they should have just written them off as a lost cause because negotiating has been a total disaster. Here is why we don't negotiate with terrorists. 600 extremist murderers for 4 dead bodies, including two small children? That's going to give Hamas incentive to do this over and over again. Just close the border up tight and not let anyone through again and turn off the tap for electricity (like we should be doing with the Americans) until all the hostages are released.

I guess when you are attacked it is very tempting to attack back (human nature being what it is), but typically never a good idea because of civilian casualties. Best to attack with sanctions than bombs (as we are doing with the Americans, Russians, etc). unfortunately, the Jews don't believe in the "turn the other cheek" part of the Bible.
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Abby_wx wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:37 am It was disturbing to hear about how many BC Conservatives refuse to stand up to Trump. Does anyone here regret voting Conservative now that the party is basically self-destructing?
I wonder if this will influence the Federal election? It might not be any easy win for Poilievre. While I do think he will stand up to Trump, I don’t think it will be easy to convince Liberals. Time will tell.
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AbbyJr wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:57 pm I wonder if this will influence the Federal election? It might not be any easy win for Poilievre. While I do think he will stand up to Trump, I don’t think it will be easy to convince Liberals. Time will tell.
According to some polls, the Liberals could win again in a landslide, although the average of the polls is another minority government. Mark Carney doesn't have much charisma (unlike Trudeau or Poillievre for that matter), so my guess is a Conservative minority or maybe even a slight majority, but nothing like the polls showed in December.
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Glacier wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:47 pm If only North Gateway would have been built, we could have exported oil overseas and not relied on pipelines south to Texas! Shut off the tap south, and Alberta goes bankrupt within the year. It would be like BC banning 80% of logging and mining in the province overnight. The Americans would know this hurts us more than them so they'd just up the ante.
The Americans rely on our oil. I do agree though, we should have gotten more pipelines built. Would rather see them built over transporting oil via rail which is a lot more dangerous, which is what we rely on quite heavily right now.

Exporting it overseas is the answer. Our overreliance on America is the biggest problem here. Not to mention their corporate presence in having a significant stake in the Canadian economy, which has only made things worse.
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There was no way the Liberal Party’s nomenklatura would allow Chrystia Freeland to succeed Justin Trudeau. She knew too much. She promised to declassify all the intelligence about foreign interference in federal elections going back 20 years. Trump’s re-election, Canada’s historic arrival at the American abyss and Ukraine’s darkest hour. . . it was going to be the fight of her life. The Liberal establishment was afraid of her, so they picked a “pragmatic” banker instead.

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The only way the Liberals win the next election (IMO) is if Mark Carney alienates the Liberal base. If he's willing to back away from a lot of what Trudeau was doing, then I think there's a higher chance of a 4th term for the Liberals. If Carney is forced or desires himself to keep following along the same lines of what they have been doing, the Liberals will lose. Pollievre is still ok to call this a carbon tax election. Mark Carney has been talking about removing the consumer carbon tax, but he's instead going to triple the industrial carbon tax. What will that do? Send more companies to the USA.
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This is turning into a circus cue the animal crackers. :wtf:
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stuffradio wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:40 pm The only way the Liberals win the next election (IMO) is if Mark Carney alienates the Liberal base. If he's willing to back away from a lot of what Trudeau was doing, then I think there's a higher chance of a 4th term for the Liberals. If Carney is forced or desires himself to keep following along the same lines of what they have been doing, the Liberals will lose. Pollievre is still ok to call this a carbon tax election. Mark Carney has been talking about removing the consumer carbon tax, but he's instead going to triple the industrial carbon tax. What will that do? Send more companies to the USA.
I'm very thankful we have a democracy and therefore, I fully respect each persons right to choose who to vote for in the election. But having said that, I don't understand why anyone would want to reelect the Liberals regardless of their party leader. While we do need a leader who will stand up to Trump, we also need a government who will be fiscally responsible. When it comes to Trump, I'm confident both candidates will stand up to him. But in terms of fiscal responsibility, the Liberals simply can't be trusted. Therefore, in my opinion, the Conservatives are the best choice for the country.
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Yesterday John Rustad introduced legislation to stop the time change twice a year. Also today Mark Carney said he wanted to remove the consumer Carbon Tax by end of today, but he will see if he can do that.
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Today Mark Carney did scrap the consumer carbon tax. David Eby said he would be getting that done as well around the end of the month or so. The only thing is though that both David Eby and Mark Carney has talked about increasing Industrial carbon tax, so I think we will still be getting hammered either way. It's just more of the same games that they like to play.
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Also, here is more about his carbon tax plan. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney ... -1.7446908

Here's a paragraph here about one of his programs he wants to introduce. I think this is talking about Carney's plan and not Europe's. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

"Initially, the fees will be applied to materials that traditionally generate lots of emissions to produce and have a lot of global competition, such as iron, steel, cement, fertilizers, aluminum, hydrogen and electricity."

So, this week we have Mark Carney taking photo-ops talking about protecting the very people he will be taxing if he's elected in an election? Specifically, is he talking about taxing foreign steel or Canadian made steel?
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