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[John]

The Hamas pigs are finally letting the hostages go!

[HarrisonSasquatchWx]

The Hamas pigs are finally letting the hostages go!

Yup insane news John. is it really over or just until they re-arm in 20 years.

[AbbyJr]

Title: Conservative, NDP caucuses weighing a budget vote that could trigger an election: sources
Author: John Paul Tasker, Kate McKenna
Date: October 30th, 2025 1:31PM PDT
Source: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conser ... -9.6960615

The Conservative and NDP caucuses are grappling with what to do about the upcoming federal budget and whether they want to be part of an effort to trigger an election by voting it down, multiple sources told CBC News.

Senior Conservative sources say the party's leadership does not want an election right now, but they are also opposed to voting for the new Liberal government's first budget given the potential reputational risk of backing Prime Minister Mark Carney and an agenda they simply don't support.

A Conservative source says speculation about the Liberals potentially losing the budget vote is “not contrived” as, at this time, there are not enough votes for it to pass in the House after it is tabled on Tuesday.

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has made a series of demands to the Liberals in exchange for votes on the budget, including scrapping the industrial carbon tax and keeping the deficit below $42 billion. But there is no realistic expectation that they will be fulfilled given the government has already signalled they are a non-starter.

The Bloc Québécois has also made some expensive demands, including increased Old Age Security payouts, more generous health transfers to the provinces and interest-free loans for first-time homebuyers — policies that are unlikely to be enacted in full given the government is intent on reining in spending.

But the Liberals have made some outreach to the Bloc and Thursday agreed to include at least one of their demands — a crackdown on a tax-evasion scheme the trucking industry has long opposed.

The Conservatives have had conversations with the NDP and the Bloc about how to approach the vote, according to sources. CBC News is not naming the sources because they were not authorized to speak publicly about internal discussions.

One senior NDP source and two Conservative sources say the path believed to be most likely is that some of the NDP’s seven MPs could abstain from voting, allowing the budget to pass.

At Wednesday's Conservative caucus meeting, MPs were told their party's plan is to avoid criticizing the NDP for the foreseeable future, sources told CBC News.

The Liberal minority government needs three additional votes, or two if the Speaker were to break a tie.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May told CBC News Thursday she would not support a budget that includes any fossil fuel subsidies, but otherwise is waiting to see it before deciding how she will vote.

If the Liberals can't cobble together enough support, the government could fall and Canadians could be headed for an election before Christmas.

Conservative sources who are familiar with party outreach on the budget said the NDP MPs are not aligned — and that the caucus functions without much structure.

A Conservative source says the small NDP caucus may have conflicting priorities — which could make it easier to convince individual MPs to vote for the budget.

That scenario could deliver the necessary votes to get the document through the House of Commons without the NDP going all-in on the Liberal agenda.

Government House leader Steven MacKinnon meanwhile is publicly urging the Conservatives to vote for the budget to avoid an election so soon after the last one.

“Walk down the aisle and tell the grinchy leader of the Opposition to vote for the budget. Don’t ruin Christmas. Build Canada strong,” he said to one Conservative MP in question period Thursday.

The NDP is strapped for cash and without a leader after the party's poor showing in the last election. The NDP produced its worst result in a generation after propping up the last Liberal minority government.

The party, which is set to pick a permanent leader in March, is not in the best position to run another expensive national campaign so soon.

But the parliamentary caucus still hasn't decided what to do, an NDP source said.

Two Conservative sources told CBC News that MPs were told at the party's Wednesday caucus meeting that members can go on pre-approved travel when votes on the budget could come about — but they need to be available to vote electronically.

On Tuesday, Poilievre was asked if all of his MPs are expected to vote for the budget — or whether there would be room for some to sit it out. He did not answer the question, but repeated that Conservatives want to see an “affordable” budget.

The Conservatives' plan to avoid criticizing the NDP is a shift from their strategy in the last Parliament leading up to the spring federal election.

Poilievre was scathing in his criticism of former NDP leader Jagmeet Singh and his decision to back former prime minister Justin Trudeau through the confidence-and-supply agreement.

The Conservatives also ran attack ads against the NDP in the months before the last federal vote — choices that likely drove down party support to the benefit of Liberals in some ridings.

The decision to go easier on the NDP wasn't communicated during the caucus discussion about the budget — but it signals where the party is at right now strategically, the source said.

While not making specific demands, interim NDP Leader Don Davies has said his party wants targeted investments to "support working families squeezed by high prices," "good jobs," affordable homes and investments to "strengthen public health care."

In an interview with CBC's Power & Politics on Tuesday, Davies said "now is the time to invest" and his party won't support a budget that includes deep cuts — cuts that could be coming given Carney’s pledge to balance the government’s operational budget within three years.

Unlike the other parties that have essentially ruled out supporting the budget, Davies said he wants to see what's actually in the document before making a firm commitment.

"We can't accept an austerity approach," Davies told host David Cochrane. "We're going to wait and see what the budget says."

[HarrisonSasquatchWx]

Why did Carney apologize to Trump about those Tariff ads that were running back east? weak.

[AbbyJr]

Why did Carney apologize to Trump about those Tariff ads that were running back east? weak.

That anti-tariff ad was literally one of the dumbest political moves I've seen since I've started following politics in 2015. Total waste of money too.

By the way, I'm not at all in favour of Trump's tariffs. I'm just saying that when your trying to negotiate a trade deal, putting out a stupid ad like that just gives him another excuse to stop the negotiations and then forces Carney to apologize, which makes him look weak and utterly incompetent.

The obvious question is why in the world is Doug Ford, who was not elected to negotiate with Trump, interfering with the negations in the first place? Not to mention, Doug Ford defended the ad afterwards claiming it was "effective" despite the obvious consequences. Even more bizarre, according to an Angus Reid poll, 31% of Canadians actually supported the ad campaign. It makes absolutely no sense to me at all. I'm lost for words.

Here's a link to the Angus Reid poll: https://angusreid.org/doug-ford-trump-r ... ffs-trade/

[Typeing3]

That anti-tariff ad was literally one of the dumbest political moves I've seen since I've started following politics in 2015. Total waste of money too.

By the way, I'm not at all in favour of Trump's tariffs. I'm just saying that when your trying to negotiate a trade deal, putting out a stupid ad like that just gives him another excuse to stop the negotiations and then forces Carney to apologize, which makes him look weak and utterly incompetent.

The obvious question is why in the world is Doug Ford, who was not elected to negotiate with Trump, interfering with the negations in the first place? Not to mention, Doug Ford said he has no regrets for putting out the ad despite the obvious consequences. Brilliant, eh?

The ad did highlight the irony... someone like Ronald Regan (alongside Margaret Thatcher and Brian Mulroney) who was instrumental in ushering in the contemporary neoliberal/neocon era of which free trade is a major tenet, is looked upon very fondly by people like Donald Trump, who are in favour of protectionism and tarrifs.

Funnily enough (from a Canadian perspective) this is a position that is more akin to the trade unionists back in the 1980s (ex. old-school NDPers like Ed Broadbent) who lost the election to Mulroney despite there being tremendous amounts of hatred and backlash to the reforms in many parts of the country. Even resulted in violence at one of his rallies in the leadup to the 1988 election if I recall correctly. Turner and later Chretien with the Liberals were also initially against it but by the 1993 election had fully embraced the reforms and took them even further. No government has really deviated from this ideology ever since.

[AbbyJr]

The ad did highlight the irony... someone like Ronald Regan (alongside Margaret Thatcher and Brian Mulroney) who was instrumental in ushering in the contemporary neoliberal/neocon era of which free trade is a major tenet, is looked upon very fondly by people like Donald Trump, who are in favour of protectionism and tarrifs.

Funnily enough (from a Canadian perspective) this is a position that is more akin to the trade unionists back in the 1980s (ex. old-school NDPers like Ed Broadbent) who lost the election to Mulroney despite there being tremendous amounts of hatred and backlash to the reforms in many parts of the country. Even resulted in violence at one of his rallies in the leadup to the 1988 election if I recall correctly. Turner and later Chretien with the Liberals were also initially against it but by the 1993 election had fully embraced the reforms and took them even further. No government has really deviated from this ideology ever since.

Interesting insights. In all honesty, I don't know have enough knowledge of political history to form an educated opinion on this subject. But having said that, I do maintain that spending 75 million on an ad campaign that was inevitably going to derail trade talks and give Trump more fuel to his fire, makes absolutely no sense. Not to mention, before the recent Canadian election, Danielle Smith was criticized for going down to the US to do an interview with Ben Shapiro in order to try and convince Americans that tariffs are bad for both sides. In an interview where Smith defended her decision to speak at the US event and talked about her great discussion with Shapiro, she said the following:

Yesterday, he devoted his entire podcast to talking about how terrible tariffs were for American businesses, America and North America.

I think that this is going to be the way we move the dial, the way we convince Americans, one by one, and the influencers around the president that tariffs are bad for both economies and we need to take a different approach.

And yet, Doug Ford claims that the anti-tariff ad campaign was all about waking up Americans to the reality that tariffs are bad for both sides. The exact same thing that Danielle Smith was criticized for trying to do when she attended the US event. Here's what Ford said in a recent interview:

We generated a conversation that wasn't happening in the U.S. — now every single local media, every large media, medium-sized media in the U.S. is talking about it.

You know why President Trump is so upset right now? Because it was effective. It was working, it woke up the whole country.

So apparently it's wrong for Danielle Smith to speak at a US event to try and persuade Americans away from supporting tariffs. But it's all good if Doug Ford spends 75 million on an anti-tariff ad campaign since the goal is to convince Americans that tariffs are a bad policy.

The issue isn't what was said or done. Rather, the issue is which political side said or did it. Danielle Smith is a right wing Conservative whereas Doug Ford is a progressive Conservative. So at the end of the day, it's all just partisan politics. If Doug Ford had spoke at the US event, I doubt he would be criticized, at least to the same degree that Danielle Smith was criticized. It's just another example of political hypocrisy.

Sources for the quotations made in this post:

Danielle Smith:
https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politi ... en-shapiro

Doug Ford:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -9.6955261

[Glacier]

Devastating shooting in Tumbler Ridge.

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[HarrisonSasquatchWx]

Devastating shooting in Tumbler Ridge.Screenshot_20260211_114131_Facebook.jpg

Tragic and sad Glace.

[PortKells]

Devastating shooting in Tumbler Ridge.Screenshot_20260211_114131_Facebook.jpg

Thoughts are with her and her family, I hope she makes it.

A horrific event all around.