September 2020 Forecasts and Discussions

[tyweather]

Sucks. Now 4 of the last 6 summers have featured these smoke bombs. Adding in the covid restrictions, we've had 2 nice summers in 6 years that didn't feel like apocalypses.

I don't think that there was much smoke in Vancouver until the last decade. Wonder if it's related to climate change. hmmm

[John]

Interesting. I feel like its worse this time around.

Smoke in 2017 and 2018 undoubtedly lasted much longer, but most of the time it wasn't thick like this at the surface (had to go above 300m to notice a strong smell). Most of the major fires back then were at high elevations such as the interior plateau so the smoke was mostly confined to the upper levels and seldom descended towards the surface for long periods of time.

I agree

[Antares]

Interesting. I feel like its worse this time around.

Smoke in 2017 and 2018 undoubtedly lasted much longer, but most of the time it wasn't thick like this at the surface (had to go above 300m to notice a strong smell). Most of the major fires back then were at high elevations such as the interior plateau so the smoke was mostly confined to the upper levels and seldom descended towards the surface for long periods of time.

It is definitely worse in the lower mainland. Prince George had it worse back in 17/18 I believe it was.

I sure hope EC is right with their forecast. This Sh*t really takes the joy out of life.

[John]

I believe it was worse in those previous summers. Maybe because those fires were closer but this doesn't smell or burn as bad.
The firesmoke model had us right under a black cloud of 250+ppm but it backed off onthe next run. Very wide variations.

Don’t agree

[John]

It is definitely worse in the lower mainland. Prince George had it worse back in 17/18 I believe it was.

I sure hope EC is right with their forecast. This Sh*t really takes the joy out of life.

All gone by Wednesday Thursday I believe but yeah it sucks

[Roberts Creeker]

Smoke and fog this morning. Great combo.

How do you know that there was fog also and that it was not just smoke?

It's been bad here all day, looking forward to clean air again. Hopefully soon.

[PortKells]

Apparently New West pier is burning now What on gods earth?

[Hound]

Apparently New West pier is burning now What on gods earth?

Sure is! I can smell the chemical they coat the logs with all the way over here.

https://twitter.com/easydoesit65/status ... 7649668096

[Rubus_Leucodermis]

Sure is! I can smell the chemical they coat the logs with all the way over here.

https://twitter.com/easydoesit65/status ... 7649668096

Traditionally, coal tar, aka “creosote.” As the name implies, it is distilled from coal. Contains a nasty soup of toxic and carcinogenic compounds. Is also quite combustible. Has nothing to do with the desert shrub by the same name.

My previous place of residence had an EPA Superfund site. It was the location of an old creosoting plant.

[stuffradio]

12Z GFS is wet in the clown range.

[wetcoast91]

Rain has begun vanishing from the model runs.

No rain for the next 10-14 days. No reprieve from this smoke.

At this point we need a powerful W-E oriented low to suck the smoke from the lower troposphere and eject it eastward. This seems unlikely within the next 2 weeks.

[Typeing3]

Rain has begun vanishing from the model runs.

No rain for the next 10-14 days. No reprieve from this smoke.

At this point we need a powerful W-E oriented low to suck the smoke from the lower troposphere and eject it eastward. This seems unlikely within the next 2 weeks.

Yeah, not much potential in the next 10 days or so. Looks like the fall jet ramps up thereafter though.

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[Typeing3]

In the short term, it does look like we'll see at least a few mm of rain on friday.

[AbbyJr]

Two meteorologists who don't agree on the forecast?

https://twitter.com/ensembleator/status ... 32256?s=19

https://twitter.com/NEWS1130Weather/sta ... 26400?s=19

[John]

I will stay away