December 2021 Forecasts And Discussions

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Re: December 2021 Forecasts And Discussions

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wetcoast91 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:41 pm Good pattern if you want more snow chances. Systems tap into some impressively cold airmasses pouring out of Alaska.

Not a good pattern if you like Fraser Outflows and bone dry and cold weather.
522 thickness will get the job done in December.
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Re: December 2021 Forecasts And Discussions

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Storm wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:41 pm When isn't 🤡 range, when we don't know what will happen in two days.
Once it gets within five days I start taking models more seriously. Very seriously if the Euro and GFS are basically on the same page as the three-day mark is approached. 9 or 10 days out is pure clown range.
It's called clown range for a reason.
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Re: December 2021 Forecasts And Discussions

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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:46 pm Once it gets within five days I start taking models more seriously. Very seriously if the Euro and GFS are basically on the same page as the three-day mark is approached. 9 or 10 days out is pure clown range.
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Re: December 2021 Forecasts And Discussions

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Weather101 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:43 pm Snow > bone dry and cold
Bone dry cold > more AR’s.

Plus, there are so many ephemeral ponds now that a dry blast would make for some good skating.
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wetcoast91 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:41 pm Good pattern if you want more snow chances. Systems tap into some impressively cold airmasses pouring out of Alaska.

Not a good pattern if you like Fraser Outflows and bone dry and cold weather.
Alternating between snow once per week and cold/bone dry is the best winter combo, imo.

The only thing I worry about with those cold aimasses pouring into the GOA is they can supercharge the jet, especially if they dig too far SW and then set us back to square one. Still, I'll take what the 00z GFS is spitting out any day over never-ending AR events.
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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:48 pm Bone dry cold > more AR’s.

Plus, there are so many ephemeral ponds now that a dry blast would make for some good skating.
Best outdoor skating in Metro Vancouver is probably out in south Surrey at the Serpentine fen, since it doesn't take much for it to freeze over.
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Re: December 2021 Forecasts And Discussions

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Typeing3 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:51 pm Alternating between snow once per week and cold/bone dry is the best winter combo, imo.

The only thing I worry about with those cold aimasses pouring into the GOA is they can supercharge the jet, especially if they dig too far SW and then set us back to square one. Still, I'll take what the 00z GFS is spitting out any day over never-ending AR events.
Also LM (Nort of Fraser) does really well with this setup. Sliding down the coast. 💰 💰
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Re: December 2021 Forecasts And Discussions

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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:48 pm Bone dry cold > more AR’s.

Plus, there are so many ephemeral ponds now that a dry blast would make for some good skating.
I would love to go skating lol but yeah anything except a AR
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Storm wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:55 pm Also LM (Nort of Fraser) does really well with this setup. Sliding down the coast. 💰 💰
For sure.

Been a while since we saw a prolonged cold NW flow pattern as is shown on the GFS. Used to be a lot more common.
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Re: December 2021 Forecasts And Discussions

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Typeing3 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:57 pm For sure.

Been a while since we saw a prolonged cold NW flow pattern as is shown on the GFS. Used to be a lot more common.
Also the NE Pacific is cool for a change. And probably cool even more.
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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:37 pm At least it’s dry.
At this point, I'd go for that...except there's the chance of snow on the table... :clap: :clap:
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Pouring rain in east chilliwack again. Watching for more water downstairs lol. Life sucks right now seriously a mega mess :thumbdown:

Eyes on Friday night-Sat for low elevation snow, with Another round of wintery weather Sunday night.
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BCWeather101 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:03 pm Pouring rain in east chilliwack again. Watching for more water downstairs lol. Life sucks right now seriously a mega mess :thumbdown:

Eyes on Friday night-Sat for low elevation snow, with Another round of wintery weather Sunday night.
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Typeing3 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:57 pm For sure.

Been a while since we saw a prolonged cold NW flow pattern as is shown on the GFS. Used to be a lot more common.
And we have the benefit of cold SST's offshore and a -PDO. Though I'm not sure if a -PDO actually helps us get snow with a cold NW flow. Do you know how much of a factor it is?
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BCWeather101 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:03 pm Pouring rain in east chilliwack again. Watching for more water downstairs lol. Life sucks right now seriously a mega mess :thumbdown:

Eyes on Friday night-Sat for low elevation snow, with Another round of wintery weather Sunday night.
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