December 2025 Forecasts and Discussions

[HarrisonSasquatchWx]

Someone might get something.

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Ya perhaps a slush ball in Harrison.

[Rubus_Leucodermis]

850 mbar temps well below freezing today.

Altitude: 5070 ft
Latitude: 49.112°
Longitude: -123.237°
Temperature: -5.0°C
Wind direction: 250°
Wind speed: 11 kn
Time observed: 2025-12-19T07:54:00-0800
Time received: 2025-12-19T07:55:07-0800
Frequency: 131.475 MHz
Source: .N949AN

[Catnip]

Some wins in the clown range i suppose:


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Seems like the can has been kicked toward the #beginningofJAN

After that I guess would be the good ole #beginningofFEB

Typer has been on the #beginningofJAN train for a while now....

[Hawk]

Seems like the can has been kicked toward the #beginningofJAN

After that I guess would be the good ole #beginningofFEB

Typer has been on the #beginningofJAN train for a while now....

at least it seems we have finally broken the cycle of AR's..brutal last 7 weeks for snow lovers, like wow.

I hope T3 is correct, and hopefully we get into a new #patternlock of cold/snowy from Early Jan to early March

[PortKells]

Seems like the can has been kicked toward the #beginningofJAN

After that I guess would be the good ole #beginningofFEB

Typer has been on the #beginningofJAN train for a while now....

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[Catnip]

at least it seems we have finally broken the cycle of AR's..brutal last 7 weeks for snow lovers, like wow.

I hope T3 is correct, and hopefully we get into a new #patternlock of cold/snowy from Early Jan to early March

I wouldn't be so sure Buttee... more on the way!

[wetcoast91]

Just wait until next years El Niño and you can really rub our noses in this Sh*t.

We could always have a front loaded winter in a +ENSO phase while also having endless weeks of fake cold

[Hawk]

showers moving in now. Keep us posted for any flakage locally.
Prolly pornoman elevation+, but another victory is another victory. Beggars cannot be choosers!!

[PortKells]

We could always have a front loaded winter in a +ENSO phase while also having endless weeks of fake cold

Yeah no....the next El Nino is going to shock people with how warm things can get. Like even on Nina years like this one you're seeing places like Denver hit 70+, I noticed there's a severe wildfire warning there right now with all these windstorms.
When El Nino hits at our current level of global warmth, you're going to see stuff you wish you'd never seen. And yes, one small corner of the world will get a massive cold snap and that will somehow be seen as a counterpoint to the ongoing catastrophe of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Oh well.

[Hawk]

Yeah no....the next El Nino is going to shock people with how warm things can get. Like even on Nina years like this one you're seeing places like Denver hit 70+, I noticed there's a severe wildfire warning there right now with all these windstorms.
When El Nino hits at our current level of global warmth, you're going to see stuff you wish you'd never seen. And yes, one small corner of the world will get a massive cold snap and that will somehow be seen as a counterpoint to the ongoing catastrophe of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Oh well.

I agree. We will prolly see 16c-18c next Dec/Jan. Mark it down and check back later... and enjoy the warm breezes next year

[PortKells]

I agree. We will prolly see 16c-18c next Dec/Jan. Mark it down and check back later... and enjoy the warm breezes next year

I would take it further, I bet we see places get 20-25 regularly. And it will be entirely blamed on El Nino, as if El Ninos used to cause this, or as if La Ninas are even cold anymore.

[wetcoast91]

Yeah no....the next El Nino is going to shock people with how warm things can get. Like even on Nina years like this one you're seeing places like Denver hit 70+, I noticed there's a severe wildfire warning there right now with all these windstorms.
When El Nino hits at our current level of global warmth, you're going to see stuff you wish you'd never seen. And yes, one small corner of the world will get a massive cold snap and that will somehow be seen as a counterpoint to the ongoing catastrophe of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Oh well.

A warming climate does lead to more flucuations. There will still be varying weather than constant extreme warmth. Yes, I think we will see winters run 2C to 4C above the norms we experienced prior to 2010 but there's evidence that we will see increased PV disruptions. SSW and the intensity of PV disruptions is beginning to matter more than whatever ENSO state we are in.

[Catnip]

I would take it further, I bet we see places get 20-25 regularly. And it will be entirely blamed on El Nino, as if El Ninos used to cause this, or as if La Ninas are even cold anymore.

Ya, I feel like the default La Nina forecast isn't what it once was. La Nina winter's seem to take a while to get going around here lately... we seem to feel the effects much later on. Good for some slushy snowfall as we get towards spring.

I've come to the realization a while ago that as much as we have all these predictions and models and analogs and experts and the polar vortex and SSWs, and Ninas, and Ninos, and Nitos, the weather will just do what it wants to do. It doesn't like to follow text book guidelines, especially nowadays.

Who knows, maybe the upcoming Nino next year will turn out to be our coldest and snowiest in a long while.

[stuffradio]

Yeah no....the next El Nino is going to shock people with how warm things can get. Like even on Nina years like this one you're seeing places like Denver hit 70+, I noticed there's a severe wildfire warning there right now with all these windstorms.
When El Nino hits at our current level of global warmth, you're going to see stuff you wish you'd never seen. And yes, one small corner of the world will get a massive cold snap and that will somehow be seen as a counterpoint to the ongoing catastrophe of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Oh well.

Here's the thing, La Nina usually means cooler and wetter in the PNW and warmer and drier elsewhere. Here's an example from NOAA https://www.climate.gov/media/13099

You can also see here the temperatures departures that even for example in the 60s there were warm temperatures during La NIna https://www.climate.gov/media/8905

[wetcoast91]

Ya, I feel like the default La Nina forecast isn't what it once was. La Nina winter's seem to take a while to get going around here lately... we seem to feel the effects much later on. Good for some slushy snowfall as we get towards spring.

I've come to the realization a while ago that as much as we have all these predictions and models and analogs and experts and the polar vortex and SSWs, and Ninas, and Ninos, and Nitos, the weather will just do what it wants to do. It doesn't like to follow text book guidelines, especially nowadays.

Who knows, maybe the upcoming Nino next year will turn out to be our coldest and snowiest in a long while.

Another 2014-2016 multi Nino stretch?